In the Pub after my Difficult Conversations Talk

I was talking to this guy in the pub after my talk on Thursday.

"I've been the MD of two or three technology companies and I thought I understood what software was all about. I thought I knew all about technology. Then, just recently I started writing some macros in Excel, and then I got into VBA - and I thought - how hard could this be? And then after a couple of weeks it was like wow! Some things you think are easy are really hard - they take you days and other things, once you've got the hang of it, they're really easy. But when I'm doing this stuff - you'd better not talk to me, I can't be answering my phone or reading email of any of that stuff, when I'm writing code I've got to CONCENTRATE.

"And then suddenly it struck me - all these things programmers had been saying to me all these years..."

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